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I'm very relieved that the weather's decided to let up for a while. I can pretend, even if it's only briefly, that spring has come to Atlanta, and the season for the Nebari greeting, Ena sn'ial, has passed for another year. Instead, I can whisper Di'hyidni vri ashmiel and hope for some premature end to this lousy, stinking winter.

The Subterranean Press hardback of Low Red Moon will ship tomorrow. I am both pleased and excited. If you'd like to order a copy, assuming any are left at the publisher, click the banner below.



Even with all the good things that critics have said about Murder of Angels and all the people who've said it's my best book to date, Low Red Moon remains my personal favorite. It's the book that pleases me most of all. There are some who would say that's what's most important (but, mostly, those are people who don't have to live off the income from their art). In Low Red Moon, many of my continuing characters have their finest, strongest, bravest moments (so far, at least) — Deacon, Chance, Sadie, even Alice Sprinkle. And I remain in an odd sort of fascinated love with Narcissa Snow, as I would admire any freak or any force of nature, even one so diverted. I'm gushing. I don't often gush about my own work. It's just the excitement at knowing I'll soon see the hardback completed.

Looking back over the comments to yesterday's entry and related comments in my phorum, I think I should clarify what I have in mind, should I choose to take on this "erotica" project. I'm not talking about full-length stories with in-depth characterization. I'm talking about one to two thousand word erotic vignettes. Scenes more than stories. I'd approach the pieces with the same devotion I show all my work. They would not be sloppily rendered things, but they would be short things, things primarily intended for sexual excitement, pretending to serve no higher literary goal. They would be pretty. They would be terrible. They would be bizarre and unexpected. They would be as close to poetic as such a thing can be rendered, but I don't want to mislead anyone who might think that I'm talking about short stories in the sense that I usually write short stories. Vignettes.

I have a reason for this. I've long held that there are certain day-to-day activities that either don't translate well to fiction or which have a tendancy to bring a story to a stop. Sex is one of those. Eating is another. (And yes, there are exceptional works that show this should not be an ironclad dictum, but rather a guideline.) I tend to deal with these things in my own work briefly, indirectly. I don't linger on them, because I know how they can distract or even remove the reader from the flow of a story. Now, of course, if the object of a work is a sexual act or a meal, this maxim may not apply. But it's why you'll not find an actual sex scene in any of my novels (excepting The Five of Cups, wherein I was still figuring these things out). It's not that I'm a prude and disapprove of reading about sex (though some have come to this conclusion), it's just that, as I've said, I find it too distracting and potentially disasterous to a story. But the book of erotica would not be about story. It would be about, in each instance, a scene in which a sexual act would occur. There would be the implication of story, leading both towards and away, to the past and future of the pieces. The reader would be free to imagine all the story she or he wished. But the purpose of these vignettes would be almost strictly pornographic, in the sense that Webster's means when it says, "3: the depiction of acts in a sensational manner so as to arouse a quick intense emotional reaction (the — of violence)." Imagine the paintings of H. R. Giger or Dorian Cleavenger as text instead of illustration, and that's sort of what I want to attempt. There is always the implication, unstated, of narrative.

This will, possibly, change how some of you would have answered the poll. And yes, the book would most likely be illustrated.

I was thinking over all these things late yesterday afternoon, as I was trying to stop thinking about work or anything else. I'd reached that point where there was so much caffeine sizzling through in my system and so little sleep in my immediate past that I felt on the threshold of hallucination. I lay in a tub of steaming hot water, the sun through the blinds warming the room, filling it with golden light, seeming to make the olive walls glow softly. I would shut my eyes, hearing only the faucet drip, and briefly imagine myself in a tenanment building in New York, circa 1938, or a flat in Moscow, circa 1959. I kept trying to turn my brain off, but these thoughts were intent on playing themsleves out.

Spooky and I have begun discussing the photoshoot to get the author's photo for To Charles Fort, With Love. It's going to be the messiest thing of this sort we've done since we did the blood-bath photos for The Five of Cups. Details to follow.

Yesterday, Spooky rented Red Dead Revolver for the XBox. Last night, too exhausted from nine hours of work to do much of anything else, I gave it a try. And it's actually a pretty good game. I wasn't expecting it to be. The hokey dialogue and corny voice-acting are annoying as hell, but there's some decent humour and it's a very playable game. I keep wanting spaceships, though. Westerns are always better with spaceships.

Date: 2005-02-07 04:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robyn-ma.livejournal.com
'Now, of course, if the object of a work is a sexual act or a meal, this maxim may not apply.'

I remember a Richard Matheson story wherein a guy was being fed loads of delicious food, and eventually, as his prison cell grew hotter, he realized he was being fattened for slaughter. Point is, the descriptions of the food came as close to culinary porn as anything I've read.

Not that this interests anyone but me, but in college I wrote a story about a guy who wrote sex novels but was a virgin; he could only work from his imagination. So of course he got seduced by a friend of his, and the sex, which took up 1/3 of the story, was (in my intent, anyway) comically realistic, a counterpoint to the usual Harlequin/slashfic stuff. The Ironic Twist was that once he'd had sex, he couldn't write about it anymore...

Date: 2005-02-07 05:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] remipunx.livejournal.com
Vignettes. ~ sounds right up my alley, I still vote that I would buy it.

Imagine the paintings of H. R. Giger or Dorian Cleavenger as text instead of illustration, and that's sort of what I want to attempt.~I now have to buy two, because my husband is starting to drool, and he will make the pages stick together.

Date: 2005-02-07 05:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wishlish.livejournal.com
"This will, possibly, change how some of you would have answered the poll."

Sorry, dear, doesn't change my vote. Might make be buy two, just in case one gets...damaged...

Don't mind me. We've secretly replaced the part of my heart that was filled with toxic waste from a bad relationship and filled it with angel wings. I'm ludicrously happy.

Date: 2005-02-07 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com
I'm ludicrously happy.

Good for you.

Date: 2005-02-07 05:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sleepycyan.livejournal.com
Given your explanation of what you want to do with the erotica, I would still have answered yes to the poll. You have my curiosity peaked, and while I wouldn't normally purchase written erotica, I'm not opposed to it. Up to this point, I just haven't found anything that exists outside of a fully developed story that I've enjoyed, but it sounds like you're going to take your erotica into a territory that most authors don't. That's very appealing.

Also, I finished Murder of Angels, and I thought it was a beautiful book, but Low Red Moon is still my favourite. It's the the tale that was most vivid for me, and I'm very fond of the characters...even Narcissa who scared the hell out of me.

Date: 2005-02-07 07:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mistressmousey.livejournal.com
Well, I'm still one of the people not buying the erotica - but given your description of it, I'm leaning much farther into the "you should do this" direction. Pornography shouldn't get bogged down in too much story or it will lose its sense of purpose. You seem to have a good sense of what it should and shouldn't include, so I still you think you'd do a wonderful job of it. So no, not changing my mind. Not personally buying it, but I'll probably promote it to my friends who are into erotica.

Date: 2005-02-07 09:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] docbrite.livejournal.com
Pornography shouldn't get bogged down in too much story or it will lose its sense of purpose.

I don't write nearly as much sex as I used to -- hardly any, these days -- but I still take exception to such a blanket statement. Sex can be as important an interaction between characters as any other. As such, I think it has a sense of purpose far beyond titillation and is also a legitimate part of a story rather than something that bogs it down, or is bogged down by it. Or do we stop calling it pornography at that point? (Not being snarky -- this is a serious question.)

Date: 2005-02-07 10:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mistressmousey.livejournal.com
Well, obviously this is only my opinion, and since I don't tend to read erotica you may feel free to stuff my ideas out the nearest 20 storey window. :) However, since you ask, I tend to think there's a line (albeit a somewhat fuzzy one) drawn between pornography and sex in literature. I very much believe that both are valid art forms, but that they serve different purposes. Sex in literature can be the story in its entirety or can be a big part of it, or can enhance the story in a big or small way. But I tend to think that when you're creating pornography with intent to arouse the reader, then you're shifting the focus of the words from "a story with sex in it" to "sex driven in a general direction by a plot". In the latter, too much story can interfere with the point.

So yeah, I think they are two different things.

Hrm. These words don't seem to be conveying *exactly* what I mean, but I think I'm getting my general idea across. (This is why I'm not a writer - I can never find the right words to get straight to the point I'm trying to make!)

Date: 2005-02-07 11:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] docbrite.livejournal.com
Well, back before I got my first book deal, I'd periodically attempt to make some cash writing for Penthouse Forum or similar. I never got very far with these things, because I'd get interested in the characters and start building a story around them, and pretty soon I'd have something that (A) no Penthouse Forum reader would be interested in and/or (B) I didn't want to waste on Penthouse Forum. Not sure if this is quite what you mean, but I suspect it's related.

Perhaps oddly, I don't tend to read erotica either. I read very little even when I was writing it, and what little I did read tended to be lesbian -- not an orientation that arouses me especially, but it generally seemed to be the best-written.

Christa Faust (aka [livejournal.com profile] faustfatale has made an interesting post in response to some of Cait's comments, if any of you feel like checking it out.

Date: 2005-02-08 12:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mistressmousey.livejournal.com
Not sure if this is quite what you mean, but I suspect it's related.

Yeah, I think that's the sort of thing I mean. DEFinitely related, at the very least.

And I think I will check out Faust's post. Thanks for the heads up!

Date: 2005-02-07 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] andrian6.livejournal.com
Imagine the paintings of H. R. Giger or Dorian Cleavenger as text instead of illustration, and that's sort of what I want to attempt. There is always the implication, unstated, of narrative.

This will, possibly, change how some of you would have answered the poll. And yes, the book would most likely be illustrated.


If illustrated, it sounds like the kind of work J.K. Potter's photography would suit to a T.

I do read erotic stories, both short and novel length. Both forms have a pacing similar to the way Bolero plays out. Very soft, just a few hints, and then a steadily rising tempo until the loud, brassy finale.

So, the important part isn't the notes of the composition itself, but how they're interepreted. We've all heard Bolero performed before. What's different about this particular rendition?

Date: 2005-02-08 11:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/__hecate__/
"I'm talking about one to two thousand word erotic vignettes. Scenes more than stories."
Any familiar faces or introduction of new characters that you plan to develop?
And illustrations as starting point or "meat on the bone"?

Date: 2005-02-08 03:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com
Any familiar faces or introduction of new characters that you plan to develop?

All new characters.

And illustrations as starting point or "meat on the bone"?

Since the illustrations would be done after the vignettes are written, I see them more as an enhancement.

Date: 2005-02-08 04:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/__hecate__/
"All new characters."
Are they one-off's or do you think that some might
show up in later works?
Reason I ask, is in that sort of format the reader
usually wonders "who is that and how did he/she/it
get there".

Date: 2005-02-08 05:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com
Are they one-off's or do you think that some might
show up in later works?
Reason I ask, is in that sort of format the reader
usually wonders "who is that and how did he/she/it
get there".


They are almost certainly one-offs, unless they recur in other erotic vingettes.

Sometimes they may not even have names. Sometimes they might be simply "the woman walking on the beach" or "the girl lost in the forest."

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