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Yesterday, I managed only 721 words on "Galápagos." After getting the thoughts of those I'd sent the story off to, there were things I needed to talk through. The sorts of things I generally let work themselves out with no particular forethought. And afterwards, I wrote. It's starting to look as if this will be a longer story than I'd first expected, not 6,500 words, but nearer 10,000. Fortunately, I have until May 31st to finish it. Of course, during that time, I also have to get Sirenia Digest #42 out to subscribers, and I have to get some things done for my publicist at Penguin, regarding The Red Tree.

Ironically —— or so it seems to me —— one of the aspects of my sf that I'm most insecure about, and "Galápagos" is no exception, is the actual science. When writing sf, I spend at least half the time fact checking and rechecking and re-rechecking. Though, I should think, if I may be so bold, that if you put any random 100 authors of sf into a room together, and I were one of the bunch, and then evaluate our knowledge of the scientific enterprise, and our general scientific literacy, I'd surely fall into the top tenth percentile. Maybe that's why I'm so insecure about it. Fuck if I know.

Anyway, I'm going to step away from "Galápagos" for a couple of days. I have an interview to do this afternoon, and a number of other things I've been putting off. This evening, Spooky and I will be going to visiting a local writer acquaintance on the East Side for a communal signature-sheet signing gathering sort of thing (the pages are for Joshi's forthcoming Black Wings: New Tales of Lovecraftian Horror, which includes my story, "Pickman's Other Model"). And tomorrow's going to be a day off, because I've not had one since May 8th.

My comp copies of the new Alabaster trade paperback arrived yesterday. I think the book looks great. And you can score a copy for a mere $14.95 (plus s&h).



Last night, I was too tired for much of anything, so after BBQ from United BBQ, we watched the first seven episodes of The X-Files (eps six and seven, "Shadow" and "Ghost in the Machine," are dull as hell, by the way). I didn't get to sleep until a little after three, but then —— fuck you, Monsieur Insomnia —— I slept a full eight hours. Booya! Thank you, Mulder and Scully.

Gods, a mere six days remaining until birthday -5. How bloody weird is that?

Postscript (3:06 p.m.): I only just the minute learned that Stephenie Meyer is a Mormon. Suddenly, it all makes so much more sense.

Date: 2009-05-20 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onemoreshadow.livejournal.com
It's unfortunate that some sf fans base their enjoyment of a story on the idea that THIS COULD ACTUALLY HAPPEN! I imagine a great deal of the sf stories written in the last fifty or a hundred years would be considered obsolete under such scrutiny.

I guess the science is important, but I like to think it falls by the wayside if the plot demands it. I'm sure there's something to be said for staying within the realms of physics, but sometimes I wonder, where's the fun in that? :)

Date: 2009-05-20 05:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com
It's unfortunate that some sf fans base their enjoyment of a story on the idea that THIS COULD ACTUALLY HAPPEN! I imagine a great deal of the sf stories written in the last fifty or a hundred years would be considered obsolete under such scrutiny.

Oh, I very much agree (and have said so repeatedly). Too many readers and writers of sf miss the point that it's science fiction. And given the nature of science, what is "true" today will likely not be "true" only a few years down the road. What seems feasible today, may be provisionally proven absurd next week. And vice versa. Story and characters always come first, and it ridiculous to think sf can actually provide any sort of predictive tool (or that it should try). All that said, I still fret over the science.

Date: 2009-05-20 05:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onemoreshadow.livejournal.com
Fret away! I'm reading A is for Alien right now. Is the science sound? Couldn't tell you, but I'm enjoying it immensely.

Date: 2009-05-20 05:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

I'm reading A is for Alien right now. Is the science sound? Couldn't tell you, but I'm enjoying it immensely.

I think it's mostly sound. I had to fudge it here and there for aesthetics. For example, it would be almost impossible to devise practical zeppelin travel on Mars (aeorodynamics, atmospheric issues, etc.). But, damn, it's a cool idea.

Date: 2009-05-20 05:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onemoreshadow.livejournal.com
Yes, I meant to add that even if the science wasn't sound it at least felt sound, which in my opinion is just as good. I think when it comes to research and facts, the author should include just enough to allow them to lie creatively. Too little and the story isn't believable enough, too much and the story starts to read like a text book.

Date: 2009-05-20 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

Too little and the story isn't believable enough, too much and the story starts to read like a text book.

Well said.

Date: 2009-05-20 05:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laudre.livejournal.com
It is one of the paradoxes of education that the more learned one becomes, the more one learns of one's own ignorance.

It's been my experience, anyway.

Date: 2009-05-20 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com
It is one of the paradoxes of education that the more learned one becomes, the more one learns of one's own ignorance.

Indeed, it is a hallmark of science. Very few scientists do not understand that the more we learn, the more we see we have to learn.

Date: 2009-05-20 05:54 pm (UTC)
sovay: (Morell: quizzical)
From: [personal profile] sovay
and then evaluate our knowledge of the scientific enterprise, and our general scientific literacy, I'd surely fall into the top tenth percentile. Maybe that's why I'm so insecure about it. Fuck if I know.

No, I think that's par for the course. You have to be intelligent to realize the vast array of all the things you don't know. Hey, irony! How're the wife and kids?

Date: 2009-05-20 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

You have to be intelligent to realize the vast array of all the things you don't know.

See my comment above.

I think what really wears on me are the sf readers who expect a) some degree of predictive value (which is hopeless to even attempt) and b) uptopian futures (which seem increasingly unlikely).

Date: 2009-05-20 06:23 pm (UTC)
sovay: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sovay
I think what really wears on me are the sf readers who expect a) some degree of predictive value (which is hopeless to even attempt)

Yeah. It used to be that it took thirty years to find out our fictional forecasts of the future were wrong. The pace of development and discovery (never mind communications) has only sped up since then. You would think that by now people would have noticed we can't even accurately construe yesterday. If science fiction were strictly bound by the constraints of contemporary knowledge, there wouldn't be much of a field to begin with.

and b) uptopian futures (which seem increasingly unlikely).

If they ever were . . .

The goods news is that not all science fiction readership expects either—or some unholy fusion—of these things.

Date: 2009-05-20 06:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com


The goods news is that not all science fiction readership expects either—or some unholy fusion—of these things.


The bad news, the ones who do talk an awful lot.

Date: 2009-05-20 06:57 pm (UTC)
sovay: (Psholtii: in a bad mood)
From: [personal profile] sovay
The bad news, the ones who do talk an awful lot.

It's always the ones who don't know how much they don't know who talk endlessly about how clever they are.

Date: 2009-05-20 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

It's always the ones who don't know how much they don't know who talk endlessly about how clever they are.

That ought to be a needlepoint sampler thingy. I'd hang it on my wall.

Date: 2009-05-20 09:00 pm (UTC)
sovay: (Morell: quizzical)
From: [personal profile] sovay
That ought to be a needlepoint sampler thingy.

I wish I could sew. I could have made it for your birthday.

I only just the minute learned that Stephenie Meyer is a Mormon. Suddenly, it all makes so much more sense.

It really shouldn't, but it does.

Date: 2009-05-20 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] txtriffidranch.livejournal.com
So...what do you want for your birthday this time? I think I can hunt down some more NASA stuff...

Date: 2009-05-20 06:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com
So...what do you want for your birthday this time?

You've already outdone yourself with the NASA goodies. And, in fact, I was reworking some of my ideas for The Dinosaurs of Mars last night, and I'm hoping I can have time to get back to it in the summer of 2010. In fact, hopefully, it's all I will do that summer (except the digest).

Oh...but I would mind one of those TTR stickers.

Date: 2009-05-20 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] txtriffidranch.livejournal.com
I didn't send you one of those already? Well, that will need to be rectified. Stickers and buttons for you and Spooky are on the way.

Date: 2009-05-20 09:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

I didn't send you one of those already? Well, that will need to be rectified. Stickers and buttons for you and Spooky are on the way.

Thank you!

Date: 2009-05-20 06:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suzie-n-sophie.livejournal.com
My very favorite X-Files epi is "The Field Where You Died" or something like that. Have you got to that one yet?

Date: 2009-05-20 06:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

"The Field Where I Died," and yep, that's a very good one. But it's not until Season Four, and we're only on One.

Date: 2009-05-20 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suzie-n-sophie.livejournal.com
Oh. OK. Hmmm. The Field Where I Died. OK, I see. Because it was really Mulder. But I hear the girl saying something about "the field where you died" and I always think that's the title.

Alabaster

Date: 2009-05-20 06:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suzie-n-sophie.livejournal.com
And I'm about to score my copy of Alabaster.

Re: Alabaster

Date: 2009-05-20 06:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

And I'm about to score my copy of Alabaster.

Thank you. I thought I'd sent you the hardback.

Re: Alabaster

Date: 2009-05-20 07:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suzie-n-sophie.livejournal.com
Maybe, but I don't think. I'm going to check and see. I know I haven't read it. Well, I don't know I haven't but I don't think I have.

Re: Alabaster

Date: 2009-05-20 08:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

Maybe, but I don't think. I'm going to check and see. I know I haven't read it. Well, I don't know I haven't but I don't think I have.

Mom, you sound like me. Or...I'm starting to sound like you.

Date: 2009-05-20 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] girfan.livejournal.com
Have you seen this:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/may/19/ida-fossil-evolution

Date: 2009-05-20 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

Yep, and I meant to post on it, and forgot. Thanks for reminding me!

Date: 2009-05-20 07:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] matociquala.livejournal.com
That's beautiful.

Date: 2009-05-20 07:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suzie-n-sophie.livejournal.com
That cat looks like Charles.

Date: 2009-05-20 08:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

Indeed he do.

Date: 2009-05-20 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

That's beautiful.

Ted's cover? Yes, I remain extremely pleased with it. He nailed the book, spot on.

Date: 2009-05-20 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scarletboi.livejournal.com
Yep, And Meyers tithes a portion of her profits from the series to the church. A large sum of which was used to advertise against gay marriage in the whole prop8 debacle in California.

Growl.

Date: 2009-05-20 08:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

Yep, And Meyers tithes a portion of her profits from the series to the church. A large sum of which was used to advertise against gay marriage in the whole prop8 debacle in California.

*groan*

Date: 2009-05-20 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] humglum.livejournal.com


Oh, ugh.

Date: 2009-05-20 11:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiaduran.livejournal.com
Another reason to continue my war against her books by reshelving them in inappropriate places in the bookstores like automotive, dog grooming and now the gay/lesbian/et al sections.

Why, yes, I am shallow and vindictive...and I do apologize to the bookstore staff, but, ya know, shallow and vindictive...

Date: 2009-05-21 04:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

Me, I'm only shallow and vindictive.

Oh...wait.

Rest Assured...

Date: 2009-05-20 08:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cause-catyljan.livejournal.com
...there's at least one branch of the soulless Waterstone's chain stocking Alabaster

My colleagues are already tired of me showing them the awesome wrap-around cover art.

Re: Rest Assured...

Date: 2009-05-20 08:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

...there's at least one branch of the soulless Waterstone's chain stocking Alabaster

That's good to know. Thank you.

Date: 2009-05-21 12:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gargirl.livejournal.com
Oh gods... she tithes her profits toward opposing gay marriage? So glad I didn't buy that awful book! My niece was so batshit over it I read it and it was so... blah, vanilla, boring. I cannot imagine wanting to read the next one and there are several of them. ???

Date: 2009-05-21 04:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com
Oh gods... she tithes her profits toward opposing gay marriage? So glad I didn't buy that awful book! My niece was so batshit over it I read it and it was so... blah, vanilla, boring. I cannot imagine wanting to read the next one and there are several of them. ???

I'm just relieved to have such a valid reason to hate her. I always felt bad, hating her just because she was such a lousy writer. This is much better.

Date: 2009-05-21 04:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kody-boye.livejournal.com
WTF? That little whore. I swear, if I ever see her in person, I'm going to verbally assault her so bad her GREAT DEAD GRANDMOTHER will start crying. No, I won't just verbally assault her, I will throw COPIES OF HER FRIGGIN HARDCOVER BOOKS at her, then launch the extra shit she's ever appeared in at her house with a cannon.

That is NOT COOL.

Wonder what her gay fanbase thinks of her now.

Date: 2009-05-21 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rsbryswrrl.livejournal.com
I have to admit, while I do think the actual writing is pretty crap, I did end up getting sucked into the *obsession*, although I think in my case it has more to do with Robert Pattinson than the books themselves. I typically wouldn't touch such drivel with a ten foot pole, but the only thing I can compare it to would be a crack addiction - or at least what I've *heard* a crack addiction must be like.

Caitlin, I apologize for being so obsessed with this junk. How can I be when YOU are one of my favorite authors? I have no idea - it feels like it was beyond my control...
Can you forgive me? Please?

I also didn't know the part about the tithing, although I did know she was Mormon. THAT pisses me off.

Date: 2009-05-22 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gargirl.livejournal.com
Yeah, this is a very good reason to hate her. What a jerk.

Date: 2009-05-21 02:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kody-boye.livejournal.com
One of the reasons I don't write sci-fi. I mean, I've got IDEAS for sci-fi stories, but I don't plan on starting them anytime soon. >.> Should I ever write them, I will be the first to admit I will completely sidestep all the science, haha.

But hey, even if you only wrote a little, that's more than you WERE writing, right? :D

Oh, and the X-Files... ugh, Shadow... can't even remember that episode. Ghost in the Machine, I think, is about the supercomputer with artificial intelligence, right? If so, that episode bored me too, lol.

And lol on the Stephanie Meyer comment. Yeah--I live around Mormons, and all their repressed desires for caffeine makes them write about (technically) pedophillic vampires who stalk teenage girls. :D

Date: 2009-05-21 04:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com
And lol on the Stephanie Meyer comment. Yeah--I live around Mormons, and all their repressed desires for caffeine makes them write about (technically) pedophillic vampires who stalk teenage girls.

Heh, and add the whole necrophilia angle.

Also, see above comment.

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