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My thanks to [livejournal.com profile] sovay and [livejournal.com profile] corucia for sending me the Science article ("Global Mineralogical and Aqueous Mars History Derived from OMEGA/Mars Express Data") describing the three new proposed geologic eras for Mars. Now I know what the researchers in question have actually said, as compared to only knowing the watered down and oversimplified versions of their findings and propositions turning up in popular articles. If you'd like to read the paper for yourself, just follow this link. This is such marvelous stuff. File it in the great overflowing cabinet labeled "I'm glad I've lived long enough to be around for this." So, perhaps Mars was wet and amenable to life very early in its history, during the proposed "phyllosian" era (<4 billion ybp; see diagram below). The last paragraph is exciting indeed:

The era during which Mars might have been most likely to have hosted habitable conditions is the first one, indicated by the presence of phyllosilicates. If indeed living organisms formed, these clay minerals could be the sites in which this biochemical development took place. The low level of the further surface alteration, in perennial cold and dry conditions, under a tenuous atmosphere, could have preserved most of the record of biological molecules, structures, or other diagnostic features in clay-rich surface or subsurface rocks. These areas of high habitability potential offer exciting targets for future in situ exploration.



Back here Earth, I spent much yesterday on various busynesses, but also managed to begin the new Dancy piece, a vignettish thing which will be published as a chapbook to accompany Alabaster (free to those who order the once-again-available limited edition). It's called "Highway 97" and is set a few days before Dancy's arrival at the old church south of Bainbridge, Georgia. Despite the fact that I was initially reluctant to write another Dancy story, I'm actually quite excited about it. The whole of the story occurred to me yesterday, as I was listening to Nick Cave's soundtrack for Warren Ellis' film The Proposition. Likely, I'll write the entire thing to that CD (which is quite awesome, by the way).

I wish I could say that I'd be spending all of today working on "Highway 97," but, unfortunately, this isn't the case. Instead, I need to spend it working on the cover copy for Daughter of Hounds. My editor at Penguin sent it to me a week or so ago. She wasn't very happy with it, and when I saw it I was very unhappy with it. The chief problem is that whoever wrote the copy (people get paid to do this, I suppose) was trying to present it as a genre horror novel, which it isn't. It might fairly be called dark fantasy, with some emphasis on the dark, but it's not whatever people mean when they say "horror". So, anyway, I have something like 150 words to try and synopsize/describe a very complex novel that's almost 700 typescript pages long. 150 words to accurately convey the plot, the mood, something of the central characters. And I have to have it e-mailed to my editor before five p.m. this evening. I'd much rather spend the day with Dancy. Or Martian mineralogy. Or wedging my head into the bowl of the Worst Toilet in Scotland, for that matter.

Yesterday, Sonya Taaffe ([livejournal.com profile] sovay) brought up a problem that I've been trying not to think about. A substantial portion of my writing time is now being devoted to the work I'm doing on Sirenia Digest. On the one hand, the digest is keeping the rent paid until the next book deal comes in, and there's no doubt that it's allowing my writing to grow in new and exciting directions. But it's also true that the majority of my writing is presently being done for a very small audience, and there is some danger of all this work "falling through the cracks", as it were, failing to come to the attention of reviewers and editors and suchlike. I've been worrying about this for a couple of months. Excepting "Bainbridge," the last full-length short story I wrote was "Night," in July 2005, and before that, "Bradbury Weather," way back in August 2004. And I see three primary reasons for this: 1) personal chaos over this past year; 2) the fact that most of 2005 was spent writing Daughter of Hounds; and 3) the energy that's going into Sirenia Digest. It's an odd situation to be in. I love the work I'm doing for the digest and that I did on Frog Toes and Tentacles, but it's all being written "off the radar," so to speak. For the foreseeable furture, I'm committed to the digest project and don't really see how I can address the problem. But I have recognized that it is a problem. To a degree, the release of Alabaster will help, as will the release of Daughter of Hounds, work which will help keep me in the public eye while I'm engaged in these more esoteric pursuits. Well, truth be told, writing short stories, even when those stories win awards or are chosen for "year's best" anthologies, is a pretty damned esoteric endeavor.

There were wonderful thunderstorms just after sunset last night, and there will likely be more today.

Just a thought...

Date: 2006-04-21 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seph-ski.livejournal.com
I've purchased .pdf documents at amazon.com. Would offering Sirenia Digest issues or even single stories from the issues help with the staying on the radar problem? I don't know any of the logistics involved in such a thing, but if nothing else, it would likely increase your subscriber base.

Re: Just a thought...

Date: 2006-04-21 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com
I've purchased .pdf documents at amazon.com. Would offering Sirenia Digest issues or even single stories from the issues help with the staying on the radar problem?

I'm not sure if my arrangement with subpress would permit this. I'm also not sure how one goes about offerring .PDFs via Amazon.

Date: 2006-04-21 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] humming-along.livejournal.com
What about publishing a quarterly paper version of Sirenia, with your personal favorites of that quarters stories, plus maybe one or two exclusive stories? You could keep like one story from each e-digest as an online exclusive, so that all the way around, whichever version you choose has some exclusive content to make it worth spending the extra money on.

Or better yet, start your own magazine of dark/fantastical/mystical/esoteric erotica. Better for us readers, at least.

Date: 2006-04-21 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com
What about publishing a quarterly paper version of Sirenia, with your personal favorites of that quarters stories, plus maybe one or two exclusive stories?

See my comments to [info]sovay (below).

Or better yet, start your own magazine of dark/fantastical/mystical/esoteric erotica. Better for us readers, at least.

I'm pretty sure I'm not up to publishing a hard-copy zine at this point. I get dizzy just thinking about it.

Date: 2006-04-21 06:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sovay
How were the sales of Frog Toes and Tentacles? I'm wondering how a collection of stories selected from Sirenia would do: for example, as much as I find monthly PDFs convenient, I always prefer paper and ink and I would be more than pleased to have another beautifully-bound book of Kiernan erotica on my shelf. Would you be comfortable sending such a collection to reviewers?

(For the record, my last name is spelled "Taaffe." Blame all the doubled letters on Welsh.)

Date: 2006-04-21 06:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com
(For the record, my last name is spelled "Taaffe." Blame all the doubled letters on Welsh.)

Sorry about that. Dumb typos come from not proofing because I'm in a rush. Fixed.

How were the sales of Frog Toes and Tentacles?

Very good. I believe the book's been sold out for a bit now.

I'm wondering how a collection of stories selected from Sirenia would do: for example, as much as I find monthly PDFs convenient, I always prefer paper and ink and I would be more than pleased to have another beautifully-bound book of Kiernan erotica on my shelf.

That's been the plan from the start and is the reason that Subterranean's sponsoring the digest. There's supposed to be a second volume published, later this year, I think.

Would you be comfortable sending such a collection to reviewers?

At this point, I just don't know. It's something I'd have to discuss with my agent.

Date: 2006-04-21 06:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sovay
Sorry about that. Dumb typos come from not proofing because I'm in a rush. Fixed.

No worries. You should hear telemarketers try to pronounce it.

There's supposed to be a second volume published, later this year, I think.

Cool. I look forward to that.

It's something I'd have to discuss with my agent.

In terms of how it would be received?

Date: 2006-04-21 06:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com
In terms of how it would be received?

Yep.

No worries. You should hear telemarketers try to pronounce it.

Yeah, I get the same thing with "Caitlín Kiernan." My all-time favourite mangling is "Gateland Kermit." Welsh, Gaelic, it's all Greek to them... :)

Date: 2006-04-21 07:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sovay
"Gateland Kermit."

That's practically a character name. I'm impressed. : )

Date: 2006-04-21 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillsostrange.livejournal.com
You should hear telemarketers try to pronounce it.

I pronounced it 'TAAH-feh' before I heard it spoken.

My maiden name was Van Metre-Oestman, much to the consternation of everyone who ever tried to spell or pronounce it.

Date: 2006-04-21 08:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sovay
I pronounced it 'TAAH-feh' before I heard it spoken.

Is okay; if we still lived in Austria, that would probably be correct. In Ireland, I found that people pronounced it "Taff," and anybody who speaks Welsh is free to tell me what the original pronunciation would have been. This is what happens when a name takes up traveling.

My maiden name was Van Metre-Oestman, much to the consternation of everyone who ever tried to spell or pronounce it.

. . . That's awesome.

Date: 2006-04-21 07:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wishlish.livejournal.com
Here's how I'd think about it: you're paying the rent with this vignettes, and at some point, they'll become a nice book, and it'll more than likely have the same level of sales as FT&T, so you're making a bit more per story. My economics professor would professor that your marginal profit is way up.

Then again, I quit economics after a year because I realized it was a nice way to bullshit with numbers.

Here's a thought- maybe you could market the digest to comics readers? You've got a credible comics background, and comics artists doing work. Maybe an interviews on Newsarama or the Pulse or TCJ or such would bring you a bit more exposure. If anything, comics readers love spending money.

Date: 2006-04-21 07:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com
Here's a thought- maybe you could market the digest to comics readers? You've got a credible comics background, and comics artists doing work. Maybe an interviews on Newsarama or the Pulse or TCJ or such would bring you a bit more exposure. If anything, comics readers love spending money.

Additional publicity, up to a point, would be welcome. I'm not sure if Sirenia would appeal to most comic writers. I'm just not very in touch with that market anymore. The trick, of course, is getting people interested in interviews...

Date: 2006-04-21 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oneirophrenia.livejournal.com
During Mars' warmer earlier days, I hear it was a favored vacation spot of the Mi-Go and the Old Ones (not the Great Old Ones [they didn't arrive 'til much later], but the "flying starfish" that lived primarily on Antarctica and created life on earth).

You know...there's seriously a story in their somewhere. Mars: the Old Ones attempt at getting a planet started before they moved to earth, or a failed experiment in creating something else that they axed because it was growing out of control? AND MAY STILL BE THERE?! As soon as I finish my "The Other Gods"-meets-goth/industrial music story, I think I need to get started on that.

Date: 2006-04-21 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] corucia.livejournal.com
If you have qualms about sending the whole Sirenia-derived book out to reviewers, perhaps you could send an extract. I've always been fond of the broadsheet - a story all on one page, poster-sized, potentially with framing art. Harlan did a wonderful one of 'Broken Glass', and Neil's recent 'Study in Emerald' is also excellent. Perhaps you could have Ted Naifeh or Vince Locke do one from one of the Sirenia stories. Ted could certainly do some excellent sexy/creepy Mucha-style embellishments around and through the central blocks of text. You could sell a limited, high-end version (nice paper, signed, etc), and a regular version. When the book comes out, you could send potential reviewers a reduced-size print of the broadsheet - something 11" x 14" would still be readable, and I expect that it would definitely get a reviewer's attention by its very uniqueness, if nothing else.

Date: 2006-04-21 09:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] extatika.livejournal.com
http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/20060420p2a00m0na016000c.html

Date: 2006-04-21 11:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blakesrealm.livejournal.com
I want to preface this with the comment that I know very little about the publishing industry, so what I'm saying is probably way off base.

Ok now that I said that ... In terms of the small press releases you have been doing, the limited to 350 (or whatever) copies of books, how does the Digest compare to that in terms of money? I have no idea how many subscribers you currently have but if only, say, 350 own a copy of a book can the numbers be too much different, in terms of exposure?

As far as professionally I'd say bundle up some of the "Best of" of the Digest and use that as an example of your current work if you need to approach a new company, in terms of pitching a new novel.

Just curious, and obviously I have no business knowing the 'real' numbers. I'm just curious about how they compare, or don't, for that matter.

SD

Date: 2006-04-22 08:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mockingbirdgrrl.livejournal.com
i think corucia's idea is lovely and elegant. the thought also crossed my mind of sub. press publishing one story--a month? every four months?--in their magazine. don't see how that would help much on the money end, but potentially more exposure?

also wanted to mention that i got around to reading "pas-en-arriere" (apologies that i don't type that correctly). it is lovely, delightful. perhaps my favorite among this whole project. nicely done.

Date: 2006-04-23 02:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] westlinwind.livejournal.com
I certainly hope that the two stories in the most recent Digest don't fall through the cracks. They are both compelling and wonderful in different ways. They quite honestly took my breath away.

"For One Who Has Lost Herself" would make an amazing stand-alone graphic novel.

And just a thought, but reading short stories in "year's best" collections is how I've discovered some of my very favorite writers. Writing short stories may be an esoteric endeavor, but certainly could be a worthwhile one with the right marketing.

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