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There are days that are bad. There are days that manage to be worse than bad. And then there was yesterday. And all I will further deign to say on the subject (as discretion may not be the better part of valor, but it can sometimes be the author's best friend) is that there are times when the legal departments of major publishers are capable of demonstrating a degree of bone-headedness rarely exhibited outside the pachycephalosaurid dinosaurs. My great thanks to Merrilee and Anne for getting me through the day, and apologies to Kathryn, who had to endure the full brunt of my righteous indignation at Ground Zero. What the hell am I on about? When a band and a band's manager and a band's legal representation says, in writing, "Caitlín R. Kiernan has permission to quote our song in her forthcoming novel The Drowning Girl," odds are pretty goddamn good that said band and manager and legal representation have the authority to grant said permission. But, all's well that ends well, right? Okay, well my damaged schedule and colon might disagree, and it's not usual that I'm drinking in the afternoon, or that I have more than a single cigarette in a day. But...it was that sort of a day, and then some.

Please, today, comment, kittens. Just be kindly.

I'm lost, and the shadows keep on changing.

Here's a very fine and thoughtful review of Two Worlds and In Between: The Best of Me (Volume One), and it might surprise you how much I agree with it. Well, except the reviewer's feelings about narrative structure and the conventional endings of stories. But, yes, good review. Also, I think I shall be canonized as "Aunt Beast," which suits me fine. At least, this month it does.

So, yesterday was devoured by nonsensical bullshit. I've established that, yes. When it began, Kathryn and I were making another effort to complete the line edits to Blood Oranges. We will finish that today, or all the world be damned. There's only 20 pages remaining, for fuck's sake, maybe half an hour of work. And I will not be dissuaded by clueless lawyers!

Not sucky things about yesterday! They deserve mention. I received a copy of Michael Zulli's on beyond sublime book The Fracture of the Universal Boy (six years in the writing and drawing, and another Kickstarter success story!). You must own this beautiful book. What else didn't suck? Well, Vince Locke's illustration for "Latitude 41°21'45.89"N, Longitude 71°29'0.62"W." (Sirenia Digest #71). Yesterday, I discovered Unwoman, and that totally didn't suck. Last night, [livejournal.com profile] readingthedark came over, and that didn't suck at all. Our conversation about "sport fucking," that totally fucking rocked, and might be the seed for my next SF story. And my HUGE box of comp copies of Two Worlds and In Between: The Best of Me (Volume One) arrived via UPS.

Oh, and you need to see Helena Bonham Carter as Miss Havisham, in director Mike Newell's forthcoming adaptation of Great Expectations. Beautimous.

Anyway, I'm running dreadfully late today, thanks to yesterday, and the fact that I had a very early and long talk with my Dark Horse editor this ayem, and still have a modest hillock of email to answer beore Spooky and I can be done with Blood Oranges and get it off to my agent before day's end. But! I will leave you with two more astounding stills courtesy [livejournal.com profile] kylecassidy, from the October shoot for The Drowning Girl. These are especially excellent, and, I daresay, they almost show too much of what's to come:





Dani as Abaylyn (left), and Nicola as Imp (right).



The amazingly talented Sara Murphy as Eva Canning, in the freezing waters of the Blackstone River.

Date: 2011-11-04 07:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firebirdgrrl.livejournal.com
Those pictures are so amazing I can't even fully describe it.

Plus, Miss Havisham...yowza. If thinking she's sexy is wrong, I don't want to be right.

Date: 2011-11-04 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

Those pictures are so amazing I can't even fully describe it.

I thank you, and I'm sure Kyle, Dani, Nicola, and freezing Sara would thank you, as well.

If thinking she's sexy is wrong, I don't want to be right.

Same here.

Date: 2011-11-04 07:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashlyme.livejournal.com
Godsdammit. I never thought I'd find Haversham sexy.

(I wonder who's playing Magwitch. Eccleston work for you in Fantasy Casting?)

Sorry you've suffered legal shite, but I'm glad it's sorted out.

The photos from the trailer are fabulous - it's all a great big tease... Are Sara's eyes really that deep a blue?

The Speculative Scotsman's a pretty good reviewer.

Date: 2011-11-04 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

Eccleston work for you in Fantasy Casting?

Yerp.

Are Sara's eyes really that deep a blue?

Photoshop!

The Speculative Scotsman's a pretty good reviewer.

Yes, he is.

Date: 2011-11-04 08:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kylecassidy.livejournal.com
The answer is "Eva Canning's eyes are that deep a blue."

Date: 2011-11-04 08:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

Er...yes! Kyle, that's exactly what I meant! The MiBs who try to block all my admission of genuine contact with the paranormal got in the way.
Edited Date: 2011-11-04 09:00 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-11-04 08:55 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-11-04 07:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alumiere.livejournal.com
Congratulations - now I have a graphic novel to look forward to as well. And as usual the photos from the trailer shoot are amazing.

Date: 2011-11-04 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] albionidaho.livejournal.com
These are absolutely gorgeous images; I've thoroughly enjoyed the other pictures you've posted.

Also, I think I shall be canonized as "Aunt Beast," which suits me fine.

I've wanted an Aunt Beast, ever since I first read A Wrinkle in Time, in whatever form such an Aunt might take. Your form is perfect.

Date: 2011-11-04 08:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

I've wanted an Aunt Beast, ever since I first read A Wrinkle in Time, in whatever form such an Aunt might take. Your form is perfect.

Thank you. Happy to oblige.

Date: 2011-11-04 07:58 pm (UTC)
sovay: (Haruspex: Autumn War)
From: [personal profile] sovay
The amazingly talented Sara Murphy as Eva Canning, in the freezing waters of the Blackstone River.

Oh, my something.

I think this is the first picture I've seen of Abalyn in character, too, and she's perfect.

I said there's wolves and werewolves, baby
Scratching at your door
I think I fed them earlier
I don't know what they're here for


—The Pack a.d., "Wolves and Werewolves"

Date: 2011-11-04 08:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

Oh, my something.

Knew you'd love that one. Wait until you see the video.


I think this is the first picture I've seen of Abalyn in character, too, and she's perfect.


Ain't she, though.

And thank you for the link. Pretty sure, based on those lyrics, that it will rocketh.
Edited Date: 2011-11-04 08:52 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-11-05 04:10 am (UTC)
sovay: (Psholtii: in a bad mood)
From: [personal profile] sovay
Knew you'd love that one. Wait until you see the video

I'm trying to . . .

And thank you for the link. Pretty sure, based on those lyrics, that it will rocketh.

Welcome. They're my most recent musical discovery.

Date: 2011-11-04 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] everville340.livejournal.com
Wow. Powerful pictures. Not knowing anything more about The Drowning Girl than what you've shared with us here, I have to say they make me really want to know more (even if they may have hinted at what's to come). Very powerful pictures.

Plus, I learned things today (seriously): pachycephalosaurid led me to find a free online learning network (albeit for children) that had some cool maps, graphics and facts about them and other dinosaurs.

Oh, also learned spell-check doesn't like pachycephalosaurid; it prefers electroencephalogram. Go figure.

Date: 2011-11-04 08:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

I have to say they make me really want to know more (even if they may have hinted at what's to come).

That's why they're being posted!

pachycephalosaurid led me to find a free online learning network (albeit for children) that had some cool maps, graphics and facts about them and other dinosaurs.

Yay!


Oh, also learned spell-check doesn't like pachycephalosaurid; it prefers electroencephalogram. Go figure.


Spell-checking usually blows, stupid programmes.

Date: 2011-11-04 11:23 pm (UTC)
ext_4772: (Berthold Run)
From: [identity profile] chris-walsh.livejournal.com
That said, I just learned that Spell Check recognizes "thingy." The Pythons would be so happy.

Date: 2011-11-04 11:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

The hit-and-miss nature of "spell check" sometimes fascinates me.

Date: 2011-11-04 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] opalblack.livejournal.com
Every still you post makes me feel a little more wonder and dread. I can't put my finger on why, yet, but I think this one will be the hardest for me to read, the one that affects me the most deeply of all your novels so far. Generally speaking, I don't like things to touch or affect me, to reach into me and change things or make me feel things. I've had enough of that, thank you, and little enough of it for the good. And so, dread, and at the same time, wonder, because it will be wonderful, and wondrous, and some things are worth putting that defensiveness aside to let them slither in and shift things around. And I trust you with that.

In other news, Steam is running a 50% sale on Rift til the 8th, should any of your less affluent readers wish to try it. I'm considering it, though without the bandwidth to play and no idea when that will change, I'm not sure.

Date: 2011-11-04 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

the one that affects me the most deeply of all your novels so far.

It's the best of the novels, if I do say so myself, and by far.

Generally speaking, I don't like things to touch or affect me, to reach into me and change things or make me feel things. I've had enough of that, thank you, and little enough of it for the good. And so, dread, and at the same time, wonder, because it will be wonderful, and wondrous, and some things are worth putting that defensiveness aside to let them slither in and shift things around. And I trust you with that.

I am grateful for that trust. And yet, having led a traumatic life, I still seek those things that touch and affect and change and make me feel things. What else is art if not those things? Or...was that meant as humour?

In other news, Steam is running a 50% sale on Rift til the 8th, should any of your less affluent readers wish to try it.

Thank you for the news. It might be a Trion-wide sale. I'll check and post on this tomorrow.
Edited Date: 2011-11-04 08:58 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-11-04 09:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] opalblack.livejournal.com
I still seek those things that touch and affect and change and make me feel things. What else is art if not those things? Or...was that meant as humour?

Just that I'm selective about the things. Though I seek them out, I often hold them at arm's length while I decide whether to let them in. Things that don't wait for me to decide, and just force their way in and rearrange the furniture, even beautiful wonderful lovely good things, those I tend to resent and reject. I assume it's a response to various violations of assorted personal boundaries, being so controllingly defensive over my innerspace. Like; It's mine, damnit, don't mess with my shit until I say.
At the moment, I think it's a good thing, in its way. There have been times when I would let just any old crap in to do as it pleased, which really only makes the mess worse. In time I shall probably relax, as I restore and rebuild.

So, no, not humour.

Date: 2011-11-04 10:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

Like; It's mine, damnit, don't mess with my shit until I say.

As long as we're talking about my physical environment, I concur utterly. It's just my mind I let folks run rampant through.

Date: 2011-11-04 11:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] opalblack.livejournal.com
Normally, very much so in the physical environment. I don't really have my own space at the moment, living in someone else's home, which I'm sure makes the mind thing worse than usual.

OH MY! This is not the same one as below, but again I thought of you.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=0m4nLc-trRM
They do some lovely serious music as well.

I'd like to ask, if you don't mind, a professional question. I've the genesis of a story, called A Seed Catalogue Of Extinct Animals, which, by threatening to turn into a novel, so terrified me that I find myself unable to write a damn thing at all, on this or anything else. It's not the thought of writing a novel, it's the thought of writing this novel. How would you deal with such a situation?

Date: 2011-11-05 03:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

I've the genesis of a story, called A Seed Catalogue Of Extinct Animals, which, by threatening to turn into a novel, so terrified me that I find myself unable to write a damn thing at all, on this or anything else. It's not the thought of writing a novel, it's the thought of writing this novel. How would you deal with such a situation?

Well...

This is the sort of question I don't usually answer. In fact, I'm not even sure I understand the question. Sooner or later, if you want to make a living off your writing (and I don't know that you do), you will find that short stories (like poetry), isn't going to cut it. This means writing novels. But that might not be the question you're asking. If you're asking me, should you avoid writing this novel because the thought of writing this novel disturbs you...I would say that might be why you should write this novel. It ain't fun, kiddo. It ain't easy. It's usually pretty goddamn awful. I write what fucks with me.

To my mind, only one question matters: Is it a good idea? And the horrible thing is, you can't answer that question until you try to write it.

Of course, this is not the kind of advice I give, and I'm probably full of shit – plus I called you kiddo – so feel free to ignore it all.
Edited Date: 2011-11-05 03:39 am (UTC)

Date: 2011-11-05 11:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] opalblack.livejournal.com
Thank you, for that. Even the part where you called me kiddo, Aunt B. I was more curious as to how you would suggest I beat the fear of this thing into submission so I can get on with writing it. There's a whole aversion thing, it's inconvenient. And knowing that Advice On Writing is not a thing you do (though you have inadvertently bestowed a great deal of useful advice over the years without in fact it being given such, if that makes sense), I chose you to ask about this because I see you so often in a sort of battle with things you write, and this is almost but not entirely a question not about writing, but about the battling. It strikes me that writing is often difficult for you, and that's the thing.

I'm sorry, I'm mumbling a bit. It's way past my bed-time. I'm not asking if I should write, or how or what to write, so much as how to approach the aversion to writing the thing[s] I know I should write. Because my usual approach of "put on your big-girl panties and stare at the screen til your eyes bleed and some words come out" isn't getting anything done. I thought you may have a perspective I hadn't.

Date: 2011-11-04 10:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] opalblack.livejournal.com
This, however, is humour ^_^

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut82TDjciSg

Date: 2011-11-04 08:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fornikate.livejournal.com
oh my, hbc is so fab

Date: 2011-11-04 08:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

oh my, hbc is so fab

Yerp.

Sara Murphy

Date: 2011-11-04 08:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grinkat.livejournal.com
Photoshopped eyes or no, Sara Murphy has an amazing face. That picture sparks equal amounts of curiosity at what's going on, and dread of finding out. Beautiful.

Re: Sara Murphy

Date: 2011-11-04 08:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

Photoshopped eyes or no, Sara Murphy has an amazing face.

She does, and ignore my silly Photoshop comment. I was only, foolishly, trying to hide our tapping into the supernatural.

Re: Sara Murphy

Date: 2011-11-04 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashlyme.livejournal.com
I should never have asked the damn question - now I've inadvertently exposed the truth to all...

Re: Sara Murphy

Date: 2011-11-04 09:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

I should never have asked the damn question - now I've inadvertently exposed the truth to all...

Questions can be dangerous things. But without them, we're fucked (or more fucked).

Date: 2011-11-04 09:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lois2037.livejournal.com
Oh, beautiful photographs! And Unwoman most definitely does not suck! Helena Bonham Carter has long been my ideal, and seeing her as Miss Havisham makes her even more so.

Legal departments of almost every company are just like the one you describe, the refuges of completely unimaginative, short sighted blockheads. They graduated from law school, but simply cannot go out into the world of Law, so they gravitate to these benighted corporate dens of legal "authority." I'm dreadfully sorry you had to run afoul of them and their nonsense, and glad you prevailed. Many a worthy creative project has been maimed or destroyed by these creatures.

Date: 2011-11-04 09:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

Oh, beautiful photographs!

They leave me speechless.

They graduated from law school, but simply cannot go out into the world of Law, so they gravitate to these benighted corporate dens of legal "authority."

This is my impression. But yes, to emerge victorious, that's not usually the way of it for me.

Date: 2011-11-04 10:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pisceanblue.livejournal.com
A pox on lawyers! A really nasty painful pustule-ridden pox.

Lovely lovely photos, I am literally aching for the book trailer, much less the book (well, the book first and foremost but these visions are so compelling).

Date: 2011-11-04 11:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

A pox on lawyers! A really nasty painful pustule-ridden pox.

I'm getting the chicken feet tomorrow.

Lovely lovely photos, I am literally aching for the book trailer, much less the book (well, the book first and foremost but these visions are so compelling).

Yes.

Date: 2011-11-04 11:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captaincurt81.livejournal.com
If we turned all the lawyers upside down and shook them we could collect all the money they've stolen from widows, orphans and the grievously injured to pay down the national debt.
The young lady in the cold river is quite fetching. I am very curious about what her story is all about.
Still waiting for my copy of the story collection. I hope they didn't lose my order.

Date: 2011-11-04 11:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

If we turned all the lawyers upside down and shook them we could collect all the money they've stolen from widows, orphans and the grievously injured to pay down the national debt.

Oh, and artists in general.

The young lady in the cold river is quite fetching. I am very curious about what her story is all about.

Complicated.

I hope they didn't lose my order.

Nah. It'll be there.

Date: 2011-11-05 12:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tziedel.livejournal.com
I have a signed CD by Unwoman "Casualties" that I would love to send to you if you so wish.

Date: 2011-11-05 01:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

I have a signed CD by Unwoman "Casualties" that I would love to send to you if you so wish.

I won't say no.

Date: 2011-11-05 01:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katesavage.livejournal.com
Two Worlds and In Between arrived in Dedham, MA 02026 today. As promised The Crimson Alphabet was included. When sniffed, the ink on the chapbook was deliriously fresh.

Date: 2011-11-05 03:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

Two Worlds and In Between arrived in Dedham, MA 02026 today. As promised The Crimson Alphabet was included.</I. Slow and steady wins the race.

Date: 2011-11-05 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] briansiano.livejournal.com
I really like that photo of Dani and Nicole-- er, Imp and Abalyn-- at the bathtub. Kyle caught the right moment, when Dani's hair was moving about.

It makes me wish I'd tried to stage that particular scene in greater detail, and it kind of illustrates one of the challenges of the _Drowning Girl_ shoot. There was pre-planning in choosing locations and deciding what would happen, but a lot of details were improvised on the spot. And I think all of us began to stage things as though we were doing a _full movie_ of the book. We'd want to get a shot that summed up, or illustrated, one of the book's scenes... but there was this kind of psychological _gravity pull_ that drew us into attempts to stage full scenes.

So what was the challenge? It was in reminding ourselves that we're _illustrating_ the story, and not _telling_ it.

Oh, and since someone mentioned Steam's sale on Rift, I'd like to push my own fave: over at Barnes and Noble, they're having their occasional 50% off sale on all Criterion DVDs and Blu-rays. If you've never heard of Criterion, let's just say that their editions are the finest available, ever, with almost no serious competition. Some of the titles that may be of interest or my own favorites: Island of Lost Souls, Cocteau's Beauty and the Beast and Orphic Trilogy, Ace in the Hole, 8 1/2, Antichrist, The Battle of Algiers, Paths of Glory, Days of Heaven... aw, just check'em out.

(And I'm tickled that, in January, they're bringing out _GODZILLA_. The full original version and the Raymond Burr version.)

Date: 2011-11-06 07:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anastasia policastri (from livejournal.com)
Do you think that there will be a drowning girl soundtrack?

Date: 2011-11-08 04:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillsostrange.livejournal.com
I just realized that part of what makes Sara Murphy so uncanny is that she reminds me of Alice Krige, which means she reminds me of Alma Mobley/Eva Galli, which makes her being your Eva that much more perfect and unsettling.

Wooo

Date: 2011-12-02 02:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unwoman.livejournal.com
This entry was a top referrer to my website last month, go you! And then I see my name next to "sport fucking" which a subject close to my heart. Well done you! :)

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