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Argh. Careful plans were made yesterday how we'd be up and functional by two p.m. Now, I'm hoping for three. And I blame Suzanne Collins, but I'll come back to that later. I woke from dreams of Japan and bizarre aliens beasts to discover it was the ass crack of noon.

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Yesterday, we finished the read through on The Drowning Girl: A Memoir (while I also worked on my next painting). There are the line edits to make, and two or three short bits I'd like insert, but otherwise, it's finished. And I believe, as best I ever may, that it's the best novel I've ever written. There are other things I might say, but it would all be speculation. I can't know how the book will be received. And it will soon be my job to try very hard not to care. Today, Kathryn and Sonya will attend to it's line edits, moving it a big step nearer sending it off to my editor next week.

Me, I'll be tackling the monstrous task of the Two Worlds and In Between line edits.

With what remains of the day, and, no doubt, well into the night.

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Sometime last year I came across the icon I'm using for today's entry. I came upon it entirely devoid of context. I snagged it because I found it invoked a certain mood. Plus, it's sexy. I cannot deny my goat girl fetish. Anyway, I had no idea where it came from, who the artist was who painted it or when the painting was done. Then I used it with an entry Thursday night, and [livejournal.com profile] blackholly asked about its provenance, and [livejournal.com profile] eluneth kindly informed us that it was a patinting by Jean-Léon Gérôme (1824-1904). Looking about on Google, I discovered the title of the piece is La Bacchante:



So, mystery solved.

Also, I made this very cool list, 8 Lesbian and Bisexual Authors You Should Know, which made me smile.

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A reminder, as we crest the middle of the month, that this month's selection in Aunt Beast's Book Club is Grace Krilanovich's The Orange Eats Creeps (2010):



You don't have to read it, no. But if you don't, it's your loss. See, that's why I'd suck as a grade-school teacher. I would instruct students that they were free to do their assignments or not, so long as they understood the consequences, and wouldn't pressure them one way or another.

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The main reason Spooky and I were so late getting to sleep last night was that we were determined to finish Suzanne Collins' Catching Fire. Which we did. About 4:30 ayem. (Oh, and welcome back to CaST). And no, it's not half as good a novel as is The Hunger Games. It has some brilliant moments, and some fine characterization. Here and there, it shines. But, all in all, it is shoddily constructed and poorly paced. It slogs along at the beginning and then barrels haphazardly towards a poorly executed last page. Which isn't THE END, but only the cliffhanger connecting it to the next book. I've nothing against series, but each book needs to be a complete novel unto itself, no matter how well connected it is to the others. Catching Fire isn't a bad novel, it's just a huge disappointment after the power of its predecessor. Yes, we'll be beginning Mockingjay immediately, and I do hope Collins recovers from the fumble. I want to love these books, as I certainly love many of the characters, and I care about their world (but pulling off those two difficult tricks still doesn't mean you've written a good book). Also, selling a bazillion copies and getting a Major Motion Picture, that's also irrelevant to the book's merits.

I promise that if my first YA novel is a success, I'll not make a sloppy mess of my second.

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Okay. Doughnuts!

Date: 2011-03-13 05:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seph-ski.livejournal.com
each book needs to be a complete novel unto itself, no matter how well connected it is to the others

This. A million times, this! I don't care how brilliant a book may be, if I get to the last page and it's obviously just a teaser leading into the next book, I want to set it on fire.

I finished Mockingjay on Friday, after my nephew spoiled a major plot point for me. He's lucky he did it online and not within arm's reach, which is all I have to say about that. I can't wait to hear your thoughts on it. I enjoyed it, but then once I'm immersed in a story, it takes some really extreme failings to knock me out of it. I think I liked the way it wrapped up. I'm honestly not sure, which I prefer to endings that either feel completely wrong or which you can see coming from the opening scene of a story.

The Orange Eats Creeps is up next. I'm looking forward to it. If I can trust the intro, it should be an interesting trip.
Edited Date: 2011-03-13 05:53 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-03-13 06:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

This. A million times, this! I don't care how brilliant a book may be, if I get to the last page and it's obviously just a teaser leading into the next book, I want to set it on fire.

Yep.

it should be an interesting trip.

Trip is the right word.

Date: 2011-03-13 06:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whiskeychick.livejournal.com
I saw Grace Krilanovich read last night. Intriguing. I spoke to her and delivered your message. She blushed.

Including this book in the next care package: http://darkcoastpress.com/books/49.html

Speaking of which I think it may run the same sort of course with your Cigar Box Project.

Stay tuned.
Edited Date: 2011-03-13 06:02 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-03-13 06:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

I spoke to her and delivered your message. She blushed.

Thank you. Now, if I could only recall my message...

Including this book in the next care package:

Ooooooooh.

Date: 2011-03-13 06:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whiskeychick.livejournal.com
http://greygirlbeast.livejournal.com/732840.html?thread=10069672#t10069672

Date: 2011-03-13 06:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whiskeychick.livejournal.com
I told her about Aunt Beast's Book Club. This is her inaugural book, so all of this is very new to her and her response was appropriately shy and sweet.

As an aside, I never know how to talk to authors at signings, except how I would want people to behave if I were on the other side of the book. I'm there because I'm interested in your work, perhaps your process, and because I'm just an unrepentant bibliophile. I do like hanging with artists, too, because they are my Tribe.

Date: 2011-03-13 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

I do like hanging with artists, too, because they are my Tribe.

I think that's why I like hanging with goats and aquatic mammals.

Date: 2011-03-13 06:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kurtmulgrew.livejournal.com
I have a book, Ovid Metamorphoses translated by Charles Martin with La Bacchante on the cover. I once had a weird ass dream with her in it. Can't recall exactly what happened though.

Date: 2011-03-13 06:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

I once had a weird ass dream with her in it. Can't recall exactly what happened though.

Oh, the dreams I might dream.

Date: 2011-03-13 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joshrupp.livejournal.com
She'd probably eat cans. Goats eat cans.

The horns are okay. Always nice to have something to grip. But she'd basically be a recycling bin that didn't give you the refund.

Date: 2011-03-13 06:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

She'd probably eat cans. Goats eat cans.

Well, only if permitted the opportunity. But yes.

Always nice to have something to grip.

Indeed.

Date: 2011-03-13 07:02 pm (UTC)
ext_4772: (Admiral Ackbar)
From: [identity profile] chris-walsh.livejournal.com
The horns are okay. Always nice to have something to grip.

Oh, the Batman slash that I'm sure has resulted from that...

Date: 2011-03-13 06:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captaincurt81.livejournal.com
Several customers have told me that Deb Harkness has committed the sin of not providing a whole story in her first novel, A DISCOVERY OF WITCHES, leaving all plot points dangling until her follow up arrives in the future. It's unforgivable, in my opinion. It's like foreplay and no payoff. No fun at all. Just frustrating.

Date: 2011-03-13 06:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

Several customers have told me that Deb Harkness has committed the sin of not providing a whole story in her first novel, A DISCOVERY OF WITCHES, leaving all plot points dangling until her follow up arrives in the future. It's unforgivable, in my opinion. It's like foreplay and no payoff. No fun at all. Just frustrating.

That's one I've not even seen yet.

Date: 2011-03-13 06:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captaincurt81.livejournal.com
It's an adult novel. I was simply using her book as an example of what not to do, or risk the wrath of ripped off readers who should have a whole story for their money.

Date: 2011-03-13 08:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com
or risk the wrath of ripped off readers who should have a whole story for their money.

This is all a a very difficult matter. Generally, as an author, I don't give a shit what the reader wants. These are my stories, for me. Generally speaking, it is not possible for a writer to "rip off" a reader, and I dislike talking about books in consumerist terms, reducing them to "product."

But, on the other hand, I believe there are a few, simple rights and wrongs. They are very few. However, this is inherently subjective. I would be willing to bet many, many readers had/have/will have no problem at all with the ending of Catching Fire.

Sorry. I'm probably sounding grouchy. A shitty, shitty day on this end.
Edited Date: 2011-03-13 08:30 pm (UTC)

Re: "A shitty, shitty day on this end."

Date: 2011-03-13 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] papersteven.livejournal.com
I do hope it gets better for you. I wanted to say that "Atlantis" is a beautiful poem. Thank you for that.

Re: "A shitty, shitty day on this end."

Date: 2011-03-13 10:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

I wanted to say that "Atlantis" is a beautiful poem.

Thank you. Currently, I'm very pleased with it.

Date: 2011-03-14 12:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captaincurt81.livejournal.com
I was referring only to the lack of a complete narrative in the Deb Harkness novel, not the demands of a reader. As writers I feel we should provide beginnings, middles & ends to our work. Anything else is up to the author.

Date: 2011-03-14 02:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

As writers I feel we should provide beginnings, middles & ends to our work. Anything else is up to the author.

Wow. Er...The Drowning Girl begins with a little treatise on the arbitrary and somewhat irrelevant nature of beginnings and endings...

Date: 2011-03-13 10:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lois2037.livejournal.com
The Orange eats Creeps is on order and on its way in the mail. I read the description and found it irresistible, so even if it's not here in time for the book club, I'll be diving right in as soon as it hits my front porch.

Thanks for posting the author list. I'm always looking for interesting reading.

Date: 2011-03-13 11:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

I read the description and found it irresistible, so even if it's not here in time for the book club, I'll be diving right in as soon as it hits my front porch.

That works just fine. The book club comes with no expiration dates.

Thanks for posting the author list.

You're very welcome.

Date: 2011-03-14 01:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] royal-spice.livejournal.com
I recently read the Suzanne Collins trilogy, and have to wonder if the last two novels both suffered from deadline rush and too little editorial oversight. But it's not as though an editor can fix something like pacing through the entire novel, I suppose. I was quite disappointed after the taut suspense and action of the first novel.

Date: 2011-03-14 02:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greygirlbeast.livejournal.com

I recently read the Suzanne Collins trilogy, and have to wonder if the last two novels both suffered from deadline rush and too little editorial oversight.

Exactly.

But it's not as though an editor can fix something like pacing through the entire novel, I suppose.

Editors, with a few rare exceptions, do not exist to fix, but to break.

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